Interview with Sergio of Jolly Rogers, Irreductibles, Thumbscrew, and Last Chance

We greet Sergio, the guitarist of Jolly Rogers, Irreductibles, Thumbscrew, and Last Chance. I hope I haven't forgotten any of the bands/projects you play for, comrade. Can you introduce yourself briefly to our readers?

First of all, greetings to everyone reading these lines. As you correctly mentioned, I am a guitarist for the bands you listed. I am a composer/lyricist in Jolly Rogers and Irreductibles, although the other members of the band are the ones who truly embellish and complete the songs. I merely lay the foundation. I joined Thumbscrew for their latest album, "Pride of Pain," but in this band, I only receive orders, hahaha. It's a pleasure for me to play with them because I've been a fan since their beginnings.

We begin our interview with Jolly Rogers' latest album, "Poesía Irreverente"... Can you tell us something about the album's creation and recording process, any anecdotes?

Well, we recorded this album with a new lead guitarist, although he joined shortly after our second split album (Ojos en un mundo ciego) was released, so he has been with us for five years now. And the truth is, there was a significant change, especially in terms of composition. In the previous albums, it was more old-fashioned, in the rehearsal room with few changes to what I composed. This time, it was much more elaborate, and each member contributed their own touch, especially in the guitar composition. We also gradually composed in a "home" studio before taking it to a professional studio. Everything took longer, but I believe it was worth it.

Was it easy to turn the most iconic Spanish "copla" into a rock anthem?

Well, the truth is that it was quite challenging. It's a style that is very difficult to adapt to rock; it seems simple, but it's not, especially when it comes to adapting the rhythm for the drums.

Your lyrics have always been impactful and inspiring. Who writes the verses?

As I mentioned before, I write the songs, although for this latest album, a good friend helped me and wrote most of the song "Forajido." He is also helping me with some of the new songs we are composing. He is an excellent lyricist.  

Just out of curiosity, why were the first two albums of Jolly Rogers released as splits with Irreductibles instead of full-length albums? What do we need to know about the other band, and why do they sound so similar to Jolly Rogers?

I don't believe they sound alike. Personally, I think they have different styles, both in lyrics and musical composition. However, I suppose you have some valid points because we're not the first people to be told this, especially by those outside of Spain. The main reason for releasing them as splits instead of individual albums is that the same person composes for both bands. Releasing ten songs for each band would be a lot of work and would create a significant difference between one album and the other.

What interesting details can you share about your live concerts, both locally and in Europe? You have played twice for VFS in Italy in 2019 and 2022. What are your memories of these events, and how did the concert-goers receive your performances?

Due to personal reasons, Jolly Rogers cannot attend all the concerts we would like to. We have been invited to play in many countries, but we have only been able to perform in Spain, France, and Italy for the reasons I mentioned earlier. We played once in Germany, but it was an exception. We have played many times with VFS, many times. We share a great friendship, and we all have wonderful memories, especially from the two Ritorno a Camelot and Defend Europe shows. They were spectacular, both in terms of organization and the bands that played, as well as the audience turnout. These people are a great example of how to do things right.

Regarding the audience response, we have always been very happy. We have felt at home wherever we have played, both on and off the stage.

Irreductibles played once in my homeland, Bulgaria. Did you have a good time in Sofia?

Well, it's one of the places I have the best memories of, and that's saying something because we haven't had any complaints wherever we've been. But this one was special, the concert was a lot of fun, and I loved the city. Good food, good beer, and the bars and restaurants didn't close all night. What more could you ask for? Hahahaha.

Jens Brandy from Enfstufe is a big fan of yours... Any ideas for a joint project with the legends of the German skinhead scene?

Yes, we have a good friendship, and we have played together with the different bands he's been in. There are some things in the works, not with Jolly Rogers, but with another band, and there are also some ideas with Jolly Rogers and another good and legendary German band. But we can't reveal anything yet because it's still very early. Hopefully, everything will work out.

Shifting the topic to Thumbscrew... I saw you in Edinburgh, and you were amazing, surpassing the rest of the bands that night! Can you give a brief introduction to the band's history, members, recordings, etc.?

As I mentioned, I joined the band for their last album. The band was formed in 2008, but they didn't rehearse much. Eventually, they released a few songs in 2012 with more of an Oi! influence. Then the band sort of dissolved, only to come back later with a new guitarist/composer (Javi) who introduced a much more punk rock sound. The singer and bassist have been in the band since the beginning, while the lead guitarist joined around 2017, if I'm not mistaken, which is when the band took that stylistic turn. There have been several changes in drummers, and currently, Ivan is in the lineup. He also joined around 2017 with some breaks in between.  

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the song "Bad Mother Fucker" could easily be confused with a Dropkick Murphys song. Are you influenced by this band?

No, there is no specific influence from a particular band, but naturally, the person who composes the songs is heavily influenced by American punk rock, and it shows in some of the tracks.

I listened to Thumbscrew's latest EP, "Rex Pelagius / Perros de la Guerra." Two things I immediately noticed are the more metal sound and the fact that you sing in Spanish, rather than the usual English. Can you share more about this record? Will these songs be part of a future album, and what can we expect from you?

There were two songs that deviated slightly from Thumbscrew's style, they had a more metallic sound, and we wanted to create songs with a Spanish historical theme, so we did it in our language. It was more of an experiment than an evolution for the band. The next album will follow the style of "Pride of Pain," aiming to improve upon it but maintaining a similar approach and sung in English.  

Thumbscrew has a split album with Last Chance (titled "Patriotic Resistance"), the other band you play for. To be honest, I can't stop listening to their 5 songs, which I think are incredible. Please introduce the band. This is their only recording so far, what can we expect in the future?

It's a project I had in mind for a long time, a musical genre that I really enjoy playing and listening to. I wanted to have a band in English as well because the language lends itself to that style. I had the musicians, but I was missing a vocalist who was comfortable with the language. In the end, a Portuguese friend living in Barcelona stepped up, we tried it out, and it was perfect. His vocal range fit what we were looking for. We released a split album as an introduction along with Thumbscrew, and now we have enough songs for a full-length album. However, we have encountered some unforeseen circumstances, and we'll be inactive for a while. But we promise to come back with a new album and stronger than ever. 

What do you think about the Spanish RAC scene? Are you influenced by any of the bands? What are your favorite bands?

I have commented on this many times; I believe that the Spanish RAC scene is experiencing a good moment. There are bands with a long trajectory, followed by new ones that are emerging with strength and determination. These bands have personality and each has its own lyrical and musical style. Some of the newer bands include Los SDR, Eterno Combate, Last Chance, Lobera, Bulldog Glory, Skinstorm, Kontrol Rutinario, Revuelta, among others, while more established bands include Post Mortem, Pugilato, Iberian Wolves, Nemini Parco, Brigada Totenkopf, Thumbscrew, Jolly Rogers, Irreductibles, and even though they are a recent band, directed by a veteran, El Vandalo. We have great bands, and while some may appeal more to some people than others (which is a good sign), the important thing is that we have the spark for years to come. I'm sure I have left out some bands, and if so, I apologize, but it's impossible to remember them all.

As for whether I feel influenced by any band, I don't think so, at least not directly. But if I had to name one, it would be Estirpe Imperial, without diminishing the importance of any other band. All the patriotic rock bands I grew up with have influenced me indirectly in some way, but Estirpe Imperial and possibly 7 Muelles have a special place.

How do you see the future of patriotic rock in Spain and Europe?

In Spain, we have new bands with young people coming in with a lot of strength, something that I think is not happening in Europe. That's the problem; there's a lack of youth, not only in music but in all areas. We need a generational change.

Are you and your bandmates interested in football? Which teams do you support?

Some of us may be interested in the world of football, or maybe not. But if that's the case, it's on a personal level. As a band, we're completely indifferent. We don't take a stance for or against it. It's a personal decision for each individual. But as a band, we're indifferent.

What is your personal view on the ongoing war in Ukraine?

Well, there are strategic and economic interests that benefit the usual suspects. It's an organized and prepared war where politicians are puppets manipulated by the elites. The only victims are the Ukrainian people who are fighting to protect their homes and families while being attacked by some and sold out by others.

In your latest album, the song "La Resistencia" talks about the political tension in the streets of Barcelona in recent years. How do you see the future of Catalonia?

I've also mentioned this several times; it was a phenomenon that is currently deflated. They will probably fuel it again when they want to divert public attention to do something of their own. It's a beast that has been fed by both the left and right in the central government, and it continues to be fed today. It kept people entertained for a few years, but the circus is over because it's no longer of interest. But the curtain will rise again, and the clowns will return, that's for sure. Family divisions will reemerge, and tension will return to the streets because society is foolish and follows wherever the herd goes.

Any final words? A message for our readers and your fans? Where can they get albums/vinyl/t-shirts from the bands you're part of?

Thank you for the interview. I have liked the questions, off-topic, and anyone who wants any of our albums at Tuono Records, they have copies, and t-shirts and merch on our Facebook or Instagram. Regards, STAYING STRONG IN A WORLD IN RUINS.

Blutzeugen Interview

 We say Hello, to M. of Blutzeugen of the top German bands in the last few years. First of all, I would like you to share your impressions of your recent visit to my Fatherland Bulgaria.

Hello, my friend, and a greeting to all readers of your blog. The short trip to Bulgaria was accompanied by some problems, four musicians of our band were banned from leaving the country and the Bulgarian authorities went crazy there, probably on an order from Germany. Despite everything, the event was very successful. I met new friends and we visited many interesting places in Sofia. At this point thanks for the hospitality.

My impression of the current situation in Sofia was like a journey through time in my youth in the GDR. Many ruined houses and contaminated sites still bear witness to the years under communist rule. These traces have been erased in Germany, in Bulgaria probably only in places on the Black Sea that are interesting from a tourist and economic point of view. 

 Few words about Blutzeugen... When it was founded, who are the band members, your present discography, etc... 

Blutzeugen was founded in 2010 from the remains of another band. Member information are not important. We have released four albums so far, three of them have been indexed in Germany and so official acquisition is prohibited. 

 

The direct translation of the band's name in English is "Martyr". But there is a historical background behind Blutzeugen as well. Could you please provide more information about this to the non-German readers?

The group name refers to all martyrs who fell in the fight for a free Germany, dedicated their lives to the fight and, despite years of persecution or imprisonment, stood and stand by their ideals unbroken. 

 You are experienced musicians, your albums have a very good productional level. Are there similar bands in your genre? Have you often been compared with Gigi and Stahlgewitter? 

In the beginning, the voice of our singer was compared to Gigi, because of the style of our music, by the second album at the latest it has been done and currently I wouldn't compare any other band with us 

 

What was your inspiration/motivation to use Arno Breker work for the design of the booklets/covers of your albums? Do you have any explanation why the vast majority of his sculptures were destroyed after the end of WW2? 

We see Blutzeugen not only as a pure music group; we convey our worldview and values with the lyrics and the presentation of our sound carriers, textiles, etc. 

Arno Breker's works perfectly present the type of people, who we want to help regain its deserved place in the precedence. 

The intro of your song named "Volksverrat" includes a media report talking about gypsies from Bulgaria and Romania living in BRD. What's the level of this problem in Germany?   

Germany is described by official authorities as an immigration country and all the forces of the current rulers and the powerful who work in the background are used to destroy everything that is traditional and at the end we shall perished from the face of the earth. 

The population groups mentioned in this report are only a small part of the whole problem. No state can play the welfare office for the whole world. All the insane resources expended to feed all the newcomers are ruining our country. As mentioned at the beginning, this is their plan, which has been pursued since 1945. 

 Is it a problem to organize a concert in Germany? Why all the major music events are at distant locations, far away from the big cities? 

Official events are possible in Germany, of course only in compliance with many, sometimes crazy conditions. There are still concerts without registration, but mostly only in very small, private settings. The pressure of the system is very high in this regard. The reason why most of the events take place in rural areas is simply, because there are still many non-brainwashed people who also work with us and it is sometimes more cumbersome for the state to cause us problems there. 

 Do you remember any funny stories from your concerts? Could you share those stories with the readers? 

We probably experienced the funniest story at one of our first concerts. This took place in a private house; the living room had been emptied and could probably be re-prepared afterwards. The police then came at a later hour and the homeowner hid in the toilet and lost some bodily fluids in his clothing in fear. 

 What kind of music do you listen to? Any oldschool bands from the 80/90s in you setlist? Can you recommend any new good bands from Germany?  

Our taste in music is not limited to any area, what we like is listened to. It should correspond to an artistic minimum and it should be handmade, so we can't relate to electronic music. In my personal list for all time, will always be the groups that a man grew up with, as such as Brutal Attack, Skullhead, Skrewdriver, Bound for Glory, ADL 122, Störkraft, Böhse Onkelz and many more. I could continue this list with "mainstream" artists as well. There are many new groups in Germany, but I don't want to single them out here. 

 What is your opinion on the subcultures within the Nationalist movement in Germany? Are they helpful to gain more support from the youth, or are they limiting us from spreading our ideas outside these specific subcultural movements? Have you ever been a skinhead?  

I was a skinhead myself for many years and still have many friends who continue this path. In that fact we should never associate one thing with the other one, this means its political work and its affiliation to a certain scene. I don't care how someone dresses or what music they listen to as long as they have a healthy attitude towards life and can speak up and speak their mind. I think it's right and important that there are supporters of national concerns in almost all "subcultures" in Germany and that we also supply them with music and other things. We must win the youth where they are and not limit one's field of activity to a small cult-like circle. 

 As a person involved for more than 30 years in the movement, what is your view about the people involved in the German Nationalist scene… how did they evolve since the 90s? 

In the 1990s there were mostly only skinheads in our movement, many things were more political and violent. Especially in the area of the former GDR everything was new for a large part of us and the hatred of the state, communism and everything foreign erupted unchecked. The state fought this with ever tougher countermeasures. Many prison sentences, many dropouts and traitors were the result. Nowadays, as I said, all areas are "occupied" and the appearance is much calmer. The negative thing about today's movement is that many no longer values what they got everything can be found or bought with just a few clicks on the internet. As a result, the personal initiative, whatever as a political activist, musician, organizer, lyricist, etc., is clearly sung. But this is a problem for society as a whole and probably wanted by the rulers since people can’t longer create anything for themselves is easier to control. 

  Few words about OPOS records? What kind of bands do you usually sign with? Apart from CDs the label also produces vinyl. Do you think that the vinyl-collecting mania is back after years of absence? 

I think the self-knowledge of the forming one’s own will should be one of the most important pillars in the formation of basic intellectual development of every human being. 

 Do you have experience with censorship? What's the craziest thing you've experienced in the so called democratic and free countries? 

We have had many experiences with all forms of censorship. I see this as a weakness of the system that lashes out with such senseless measures. Anyone who wants to read, see or hear things will still find a way. In so-called democratic systems, I see censorship as a distinction. 

 Which projects from the German nationalist scene in the last few years do you consider as the most valuable? Kampf der Nibelungen, Haus Montag Pirna, Der Dritte Blickwinkel, etc? 

Every project is an important part of the whole. We support 100% of everything that serves physical and mental training. In these areas it’s clearly to see which projects the state classifies as particularly dangerous, see all the bans and problems which events such as the Battle of the Nibelungen are preparing for. 

 What is the situation with Antifa in Germany? Do you have a workable strategy against Antifa?  

Antifa is partly officially, partly unofficially supported and financed by the parties that are in power in Germany currently. In general, they have free hand and do not have to fear any major penalties because all means are permitted in the fight against the right. There is no strategy against an opponent who can draw on information from the secret service, etc. The most important principle should be to network more and to discuss important things by word of mouth again. 

I would like to add that these created terms are right/left bullshit and only serve to stifle the anger of the people at the real culprits in trench warfare. Unfortunately, this rigid world view is too rigid and the laughing third party is sitting more and more firmly in the saddle. 

 For the last nearly 3 years the whole World has been in the chains of Covid-19. What is your view on this matter and mandatory vaccination? What was the political and humanitarian outcome of Corona hysteria? 

A virus grown in a lab that has taken the powerful great strides closer to their goals. All fundamental rights were undermined, new suppression and surveillance laws were created. Nobody denies that this virus, which is dangerous for some sections of the population, exists. By simple means, this pandemic would have been defeated long ago. Trying to hide from it with a face mask and immature vaccinations is absolute nonsense. New variants of the virus are constantly being formed, people's natural defense mechanisms are being lost and this madness never ends. The only helpful strategy would have been to maximize the spread at the beginning of the pandemic. The economic consequences of this are an even more extreme gap between rich and poor and below and above ... as has already been mentioned several times, nothing happens by accident. 

 Your view of the war in Ukraine? 

The real sufferers in this insane war are the Ukrainian and Russian people. On one hand a despot, caught in his communist fantasies of new Soviet Union, against the slaves of NATO/ EU on the other side. 

In the end there will be only losers and US supremacy in the world will be greater again. Natural resources of Ukraine definitely play an important role as well. 

 Alright, it's time to finish this long interview... What can we expect from Blutzeugen in the near future? Any upcoming gigs or a new album? 

New performances and music are in the works...so you'll be hearing from us. 

 Thanks for your answers. Any final message to the readers of the blog? 

ONE PEOPLE ONE STRUGGLE 

 

Mistreat Interview

Just a few days before their gig in Bulgaria, we are proud to publish an interview with the Finnish legends Mistreat. Interview is originaly conducted by 28 Bulgaria, published here with their kind permission.

1. Congratulations on your 30 year anniversary on stage! Can you please tell us more about the band; how the idea for it was born; who are the original members and what kind of changes in the lineup it went through the years?
Mistreat was formed 1988 by three friends (Muke, Jönne and Kaitsu). We were childhood friends and somewhere in mid 80ˋs, we started to have some interests for playing music and form a band, instead of doing nothing. We played under different names 1985-1988, started as a punk band, but very soon changed our style to oi-punk and year 1988 it was clear that our style had become to so-called RAC. I guess it was mostly because of the lyrics. People were calling us nazi punks all the time anyway, so it was obvious what happened with the band and itˋs style. Our band was called Synthetical Bastards at the time and we thought it was about the time to change that as well. It sounded too much punk for us… It was a birth of Mistreat.

Original Mistreat line up was:
Muke - vocals, guitar
Kaitsu - bass, vocals
Suikkanen - guitar
Jönne - drums

We havenˋt got much lineup changes during the years. Only second guitarist has been replaced couple times. When original second guitarist quitted 1991, he was replaced by Arska and he played with us 1991-1996, he was replaced by Miika, who played with us 1996-2007 (but had some breaks from playing 2002-2004, then he was replaced by Jose, our current guitarist as well). Our original drummer quitted 2004, he was replaced by Atte our current drummer. When our original bass guitarist quitted 1994, we started to play as a trio Me as a bassist, Jönne drums and Arska second guitar. Year1996 we met Pete (our current bassist), that´s when I jumped back to guitar.
Nowadays I’ m the only original member left, but the current line up of Mistreat had been the same pretty long time now.
Me - Muke, guitar and vocals (since 1988)
Pete - bass and backing vocals (played in Mistreat since1996)
Jose - guitar and backing vocals (played in Mistreat more or less since 2002)
Atte - drums (in Mistreat since 2004)


2. Your new album “Heartless Bastards” is one of the top ones for 2018 and all that waiting for it definitely was worth it. Still, what is the reason you did not release an album for nearly 10 years?

 
Thanx for your kind words, I appreciate that. Why it took 13 years since the last one? There are a couple of reasons...Normally we released our albums by ourselves but decided after the last one "Never Forgive, Never Forget", it´s no use to make CDs anymore. One moneymaker buys one copy and then makes 1000 copies out of it. We don´t wanna be part of that kind of shit. Better not to make albums at all. Actually, last five years, lots of people all around the world wanted to hear some new Mistreat stuff and when this 30th anniversary of Mistreat was coming on, we decided to make it happen. This time we just didnˋt wanna put it out by ourselves, because of the reason I just mentioned. If someone will make thousands of bootlegs out of it, we donˋt need to care about that much.

3. Mistreat is one of the few bands that still stays true to its style since its beginning. Do you think you are traditionalists or you just believe that if one thing is good enough and everybody likes it, there is no need for a change?

Yes, it´s true we havenˋt changed that much during these 30 years, we still play the same kind of music style with the same kind of lyrics, but the scene has changed pretty much. Back in the 80ˋs, every skinhead band played the same kind of oi-music, now there´s all kind metal music, Viking metal, and NSBM involved in that scene..not even members in the bands are necessarily skinheads. I wouldn´t call us as a traditionalist that way… I guess we´re just stuck in 80´s and early 90´s and can´t even do anything else than music from that era. Our music and lyrics are simple as it was back then, guess we must believe that simplicity then?. So far, people have liked it all over the world, so no need for a change. Iˋm very grateful and happy for that.

4. Finland is a country with numerous skinhouses and your skinheads still keep wearing the traditional outfit from the 80s. Do you encounter problems with the police in relation to the music you make? Have you ever had problems with the authorities during gigs?

Finland is one of the few countries in Europe where it´s pretty easy to make this kind of music and organize gigs without the authorities causing problems. It´s pretty rare that cops would even mind to show up on our gigs. Sometimes they do, but just to check that everything´s ok. They´re not arresting people for having swastika t-shirts etc...Also, we haven't faced any problems here cause of our music, at least problems caused by authorities. Of course, local Antifa clowns are trying their best to snitch to our employers, that we are nazis etc..that normal shit they do, but so far no one cares about that either.

5. Finland is probably one of the countries where you can still see monuments with swastikas. We are also aware of the fact that you have the only Messerschmitt left (not counting Germany) from the WWII. At the same time, you are the only country in the EU where people can see a monument of Lenin. How do the society and your politicians look on history, and especially on the period of the WWII? Do you have a lot of antifascists and are they some kind of a threat to these monuments? Or the nationalist movements in the country at all?

Yes, we have lots of monuments here and this Lenin monument and Lenin Museum as well heh, heh...Our politicians respect our history (at least most of them) and those monuments are part of it. Finland got its independence after Revolution in Russia 1917 and Lenin was the first one as a Bolshevik leader who declared Finland's independence. Guess that's why his monument is still somewhere in Finland. Politicians in general here are still mostly patriots as much as normal average citizens. Everyone respects our history and what this small country has had to endure for centuries. So, when it comes to monuments about winter or continuation wars. Every single one here respects those monuments and those monuments are not scrawled, smashed or vandalized in any kind of way, not even by Antifa clowns... Only monuments those clowns are scrawling are the monuments about Finland's civil war and of course monuments of the white side. Antifa is small organisation here (maybe couple hundred) and they've made a fool out themselves so many times that everyone is laughing at them. Even average people are laughing at them. We have several nationalist movements here and every and each one of them is bigger than any left-wing movement.

6. Do the Finnish people appropriately commemorate one of the greatest heroes in your history - the sniper Simo Häyhä. Do kids study about him in schools? Does the media mentions something about him or they try to avoid the topic?

Oh yes, he was one of the great soldiers fighting against red invaders, but he wasn't the only one. In Finland, there are several men like him who fought in Winter War, Continuation War and in Lapland War, who did similar actions than Simo Häyhä. The majority in Finland respects these veterans and kids are certainly learning in schools about these veterans and about these wars we had to go through. Media is also writing about these wars all the time, but mostly when it´s some sort of commemoration day like 70-years when winter war started etc...i can imagine that year 2019 it´s gonna be 80-years when winter war started, so it´s certainly gonna appear in headlines in every newspapers, tv-news, radio shows and so on...I think last time I heard about Simo Häyhä in media, was early this year when they opened a museum in honor of his memory. Even if the media is pretty much owned by Jews and most of the journalists are left wing, in Finland, it's a kind of different to write about these things. Everyone respects our war heroes, even 99% of left wingers. A reason might be that we as a country did not attack anyone, we just defended our land, it´s territories and its people against this red evil empire.

7. Molotov cocktail was invented in Finland. Can you tell us more about it? What is the story behind it and the reason for its invention? 

Oh yes. Some people might say that it was invented in Spanish civil war 1936, but it´s not the same thing. It was actually invented in Finland before the Winter War and it was named after Soviet foreign minister Vjatseslav Molotov. The reason why they named this for Molotov cocktail is that Molotov had been saying that Soviet bombers are not bombing Finland by bombs, only with food aid packages..heh... (by the way, In one of our songs we are singing - Njet molotov, njet molotov, you lied more than bobrikov...). so it was like a gift back to him from Finnish people. The reason it was invented is simple. We as a small nation at the time didn't have enough ammunition/anti-tank weapons against Soviet tanks (cause they were so many), so we were forced to come up with something. The recipe was simple. A little bit of petrol, rubbing alcohol and some tar for getting some smoke as well. It worked like hell. Winter war lasted only 105 days and the Soviet Union Lost almost 2000 tanks during that time. About 500 of those were caused by molotov cocktails.

8. Some of your lyrics are directed against Russia. What do you think of the Russian people and in particular, what is your opinion about the Russian nationalists nowadays? We saw a few of them who had come to support you at the gig in Helsinki. Is it possible that the hostility between two nations can be put behind our backs in the name of a united Europe; at times when we need to be stronger than ever?

To be honest, our lyrics against Russians are not lyrics against Russians at all. Those songs we are singing are old propaganda songs from winter/continuation war (like this njet molotov, for example) and those got nothing to do with normal Russian people. We don't have anything against Russians as a people and as a matter of fact, we have Russian friends as well, so if there were some hostilities between these two nations? from my opinion it´s over now. We hate only politics they had in 30´s and 40´s and the fact, that they started the winter war without any provocation by Finns and the fact, that they stole a little part of our country, which we would like to have back. My opinion about Russian nationalists? Have to remember that there's all kind of nationalists in Russia and they´re all fighting for different purposes, but at least those I know from St. Petersburg and Moscow are exactly like we are and also fighting for pretty much the same causes that we are. So I see us as friends and not like enemies anymore.

9. Helsinki is one of the whitest northern capitals. However, several years ago, when the boom of the immigration wave happened, many Finns came out on the streets to protest against the illegals who wanted to enter your country. And as far as we remember, there was also a blockage of the border. During that same time, a new organization emerged - “Sons of Odin”. Can you tell us more about them? Who they are? Are they really nationalists or just puppets of the government? Also, what the politicians and society think of the immigrants from Asia and Africa?

I only know about these "Sons of Odin" that they were/are just concerned citizens, who just got worried about what happened around them. Rape waves, murders, etc...they wanted to protect their women, children and their childhood neighbourhood from these middle east animals. Because the government didn't do a shit (even if it was obvious what was happening), they decided to do something. Some of the members are nationalists, some of them are skinheads and some of them just "normal fathers". In my society average people like more Asians than Africans, cause Asians are normally working 100% and they stick with their own race. You can't say the same thing with Africans and even politicians know that but canˋt admit it. Maybe because they are making pretty good money out of this "immigrant crisis". Those thousands of Somalians who came to Finland already in late 80ˋs, only 4% of them are working. Tells me a lot about their mentality...What makes anyone think that these new coming animals are any better? They´ve had already proved them otherwise by raping and stealing...So, Everyone knows these people are cockroaches, parasites, rats... Politicians won't tell that loud out cause they are making money out of it. Money that comes from normal hard working peoples asses, who needs to pay for their party. So, people are angry and Organizations like "Sons of Odin" will be more, sure about that. Even if our government is working pretty hard to ban all kind of organizations, that smells even a little bit of nationalism.

10. You have a song dedicated to the American Hammerskins and the gig in Helsinki was co-organized by both organizations. As far as we know, the Finnish skinheads are in good relationships with some moto clubs as well. Are you members of any organization or political party?

Yes, in Finland we are and have always been in good relationships with some mc clubs. We visit their parties and they visit our parties as well. Don´t know why it´s like that? but it started already in 80ˋs... Guess we both are some kind of violent groups who like to drink and have fun and we respect each other that way. B&H and Hammers/Crew 38 in Finland are actually sharing the same clubhouse and they are cooperating all the time. We are good friends with both organizations, but personally, we´re not members of any of these organizations or political parties. We support them both with different activities and do the same thing with some political movements, but that's about it.

11. Most of your songs are in English and even during the gig in Helsinki you sang in English. Is there a reason for that?

When we started in 80´s, we only sang in Finnish, but the scene in Finland was pretty small at the time. Have to remember that Finland was a small country and it still is a small country. Only 5.5 million people are living here and if here´s nowadays ca.1000 skinheads here, back in the eighties we were under 100 skinheads in the whole country. We decided to make some "test songs" in English, so maybe other skinheads around the world could understand what we are singing. We understood that pretty soon that maybe it´s better to continue with English, but also won't forget to make some songs in Finnish once in a while. Mostly those Finnish songs are about winter/continuation war or just drinking and fighting songs.

12. Mistreat is a band that more than once has performed on stages across the ocean. Will you tell us more about the places you have been? Is the atmosphere different compared to the European one?

Yes we have played in most of the European countries and in northern America several times (New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, Minnesota, Atlanta, etc...) and now we just came back from Brazil, so list for the countries we've played is kind of big. Easier to say countries we havenˋt been playing. Those countries in Europe we havenˋt been playing but would like to visit are at least Portugal, Ukraine and Serbia. But yes, the American audience is not that different compared to the European audience and in my eyes, they are just Europeans living in America. Of course, people in west coast are a little bit more relaxed than in east coast, up in north people are exactly like we are and in the south, they are like we plus southern mentality/hospitality and that is something unique. Gigs are exactly like anywhere else in Europe, but they might have some other activities during the day also like strong man contests, etc... Which I think is just fun.

13. Final words for your Bulgarian fans. What should we expect from you in November?

Thanx to you for showing some interests for our band. iˋm flattered and happy to still have this opportunity to keep on playing. feeling privileged to travel around the world, feeling honoured that people still keep coming to our shows. This is our first time in Bulgaria and we're really looking forward to visiting/playing in your country. Promise to give you the best of us and hopefully you won't be disappointed. Thank you already in advance.

14. Thank you for your time. We look forward to seeing you!

You support us, we support you.
See you soon brothers and sisters.
Best regards from the land of the thousands of lakes!
Muke

Frank of Stahlgewitter Interview

I’m pleased to introduce our next guest, Frank of the top German band Stahlgewitter. Thanks for sharing time of your busy schedule to answer my questions. Can you introduce yourself in a few words?

Greetings to you, S., and thank you for the opportunity to be a part of the magazine! My name is Frank, 40 years old, father, and musician, blogger, nationalist and active for my country since 14 years of age. My bands are Stahlgewitter and Halgadom and I have got two videoprojects in addition. Der dritte Blickwinkel (the third viewpoint) and Multikulti trifft Nationalismus (Multicultural meets nationalism). 

In the first one, I express my viewpoint on several themes like, nationalism, racism, white genocide, motivation and discussing the lies from the mass media relating to our big concert "Rock gegen Überfremdung" for example. The other project features a black immigrant. We discuss mass migration without anger, but with mutual respect. Leftists and the media try to boycott this project, because it destroys the stereotype that nationalists are stupid and full of hate. Whoever understands German, may check my blog. There you can find all videos and essays from me: 

https://derdritteblickwinkel.wordpress.com/

How does it all get started? When and where you did first meet Gigi and decided to launch a band?

When I was 14 or 15 years old, I had a one-man band called Volkstroie. A comrade asked me, if I would be interest in a new band with the singer of Saccara. I liked Saccara and the voice of Gigi, so we launched the band in 1995 and released our first CD Das eiserne Gebet 1994.

What is the origin of the band’s name? Is it associated with the novel written by German officer Ernst Junger about the First World War entitled “In Stahlgewittern”? 

Yes, you are right! “Thunder of steel” meaning shrapnel, bombs and everything that kills the enemy in a war.

Tell me about your first album “Das eiserne Gebet”? You had almost no experience as a musician at that time (1996) and as far I know it was recorded with a drum machine and most of the songs began with the same intro? 

I used the drum machine for my first one-man project “Volkstroie”. Because we weren't really a proper band, just Gigi and myself, we used this opportunity. It wasn’t the best, so we got real drummers for all other CDs.

The band showed a large progress with the next album “Germania” (1998), which according TO many fans, is still one of the finest albums in the German scene. What caused this fast evolution of Stahlgewitter?

Thank you for your words! Evolution should be the way of everything. Gigi and myself listened a lot of metal music, which is why our music doesn’t sound like most of the RAC bands. Why such difference between our first two releases? I don’t know but it is nice that you and our audience recognized it.

As far as I know all of your albums are “indiziert” by the German authorities. What is the reason for this? Can you explain to the non-German readers where this censorship stems from? 

Only the album “Hohelied der Herkunft” isn’t forbidden. We have the support of 2 or 3 lawyers, who check our lyrics. But this is no guarantee to avoid trouble, because everything depends on the prosecution's decision. They interpret that some words could spread hate against someone or we claim that we aren’t as negative regarding world war II and this is forbidden here. It is crazy. No other country in this world, besides Austria, have such silly laws.

Tell me about the problems associated with Stahlgewitter and yourself, regarding the German secret service? How many units were deployed in the fight against the so called “right extremist”? When was the last time you were approached by them? 

For long time, we suffered house searches and my guitar was confiscated by the police, but we were not condemned. They tried to browbeat us, but that's impossible. I have to say, that I have abstained from issues with the authorities for a long period of time. Because, releasing an album is so time consuming, and the last release was 2013. My last problem for “supporting a criminal group”, was when I put a banner of my online shop on the Thiazi-Forum. It was the biggest right winge Forum in Germany. Because of discussing forbidden themes in this forum, the founder were accused of “founding a criminal group”. I had to pay 900 € so the prosecution wouldn’t open a case against me. If I declined to pay, I had to travel to every process to Rostock, a city in eastern Germany. Because of my job, I can’t afford it timewise or logistically. So, I paid the 900 €. and got very big support of my comrades, as they collected the most of the money for me. Thanks for this great Volksgemeinschaft (Folkish community)!

Let’s move on to the social/political part of the interview. I know that freedom of speech is quite limited in BRD, so please disregard any question you may find inappropriate, or which can cause you legal issues in Germany. 

German journalist Udo Ulfkotte (who passed away earlier this year) wrote a book pertaining to the so called “Migrant Industry” in Germany. Do you agree that such industry exists? 

Yes of course! There is a hidden agenda of NGOs and other parts of this migration industry like the EU commission. But it is not really hidden for people, who can search and read. The UN call it “replacement migration”. The aim is, to fill up Europe with non-europeans, so that consumers can save the never ending growth of capital and economy. The other plan is to destroy our race with racemixing. If there is no homogeneous people, the is no origin and the concept of nation-state and so it is easier to dismantle borders altogether. 

I can’t miss the question about the present situation in Germany. What was the reason for the huge illegal immigration influx? What’s the role of Merkel in all this? Do you think she has a real personal impact in this processes or she’s manipulated from external global factors? 

Germany is not a sovereign nation nowadays. The so called politicians are like puppets of the big banks, economy and a network of NGOs and lobbys, who pull the strings. Merkel is also a slave of these networks like every politician before her and every politician that will follow in her footsteps. This is the main reason why we have to change the whole system!

The situation is very bad. Since 2015 we got over 2 million arabic and negroid immigrants. 80 % are young men. Every day they rape German women and children, there is an escalation of violence and they plunder our social system. But the main problem are not these immigrants. but rather the democrats, who invite them, and empower them with them more rights that the indigenous population. An example: There are some cases that immigrants burn their own home for people seeking asylum, because they want to live in another place. In these cases, the immigrants get no punishment. Then a German man set a fire in an empty house, which was to become a home for people seeking asylum. He didn’t want crime, raping and violence in his town. He got 2 years in prison for this. When an immigrant rape a German woman or a child, most of the time, he avoids prison. The argument is that immigrants don't know how to behave in Germany, because of the different culture! In fact, we have anti-german race laws. The politicians stand against the German folk. It is the biggest genocide in history! 

What will be the impact of all those so called refugees for the German social and economic system in the coming years? How do you see Germany in 2050? 

Our social system will collapse and if we don’t change this situation, in 2050 the German folk will be a minority in our own country. So called refugees have the right, to bring their families to Germany, too. So, 2 mio will turn in 8 or 9 million eventually. But we will fight against this genocide and we will never give up!

Please, comment on the recent events in Hamburg, during the annual meeting of G20? Why did the authorities allow this vandalism and violence from the lefties and anarchist? How many of the arrested rioters faced a court trial?

As far as I know, there was not a single condemnation! The reasons are simple. 70 % of the journalists in Germany describe themselves as left wing or extreme left wing. So the media will smother the real violence and try to trivialize the brutality. The SPD (Social Democratic Party) is the strongest party in Hamburg. There are many links between the SPD and left wing violence groups like Antifa or the Black Block. And another important matter is, that the democrats need those left wing extremists in the fight against us, meaning they aren’t persecuted. I hope, the police will recognize the real enemy and will choose the right side, when the time has come.

What is your opinion on the subcultures within the Nationalist movement in Germany? Are they helpful to gain more support from the youth, or are they limiting us from spreading our ideas outside these specific subcultural movements? Have you ever been a skinhead? 

No, I was never a Skinhead. I was into the Black Metal scene for many years. I am not against subcultures, but it shouldn’t be the most important thing for us. There are too many negative ingredients such as alcohol, party and indiscipline. There are subcultures for 20 or 30 years. But our germanic, romanic or slawic culture is thousands of years old. That should be important for us. And yes, we are limiting the range of our Weltanschauung, when we set our focus only on subcultures. 

As a person involved for more than 20 years in the movement, what is your view about the people involved in German Nationalist scene… how did they evolve since the 90’s?

The movement attracts more faces and during this mass foreign invasion, we reach more people who were not associated with us previously. More faces generate more conflicts inside the movement, that's a sad fact. But I am sure, that these conflicts will be laid aside, when times get harder. We have to realize, that not ego is important, only the community.

How many of them are real activists and how many are for the booze, fashion and fun?

A sad fact is, that more people flok to a concert than a demonstration. But we have to differentiate between "scene" and "movement". Scene is fashion and fun, movement is real Weltanschauung. But the majority have nothing to say, when spirit lacks. 

Do you follow any local football team? What is your take on THE hooligan scene in Germany? Is it a good way to stay fit for fighting or it’s a waste of energy best preserved for fighting the System? 

I am not into football. For me, it is only commercial and multicultural scrap. To fight someone, because he supports another team is senseless to me. Ok, it could be a training for fighting. But there are so much gangs, drug dealer and other scum which deserve a "third half" more, ha, ha...

What about the relations between German and Polish nationalist? For many years there was hostility between them, but in the past years it seems that the situation is improving. 

Personally, I have no contact with Polish nationalists. Of course, there were problems, because of our difficult relationship during Word War two. But I think, today we have as lot more important problems. There is an ongoing genocide against all white people and we have to fight together against this. It doesn’t matter if you come from Russia, Germany, Poland, Bulgaria, Sweden or another white country. We are united by our destiny of the modern world with all its symptoms of decline.

You recently appeared on a YouTube channel discussing various topics with a reporter of African origin. What is the purpose of this project and why did you chose to cooperate with a black person? What is the feedback from the viewers? 

We met each other at a Pegida demonstration in Cologne, February 2016. The sexual mass assaults at new year's eve against German women were the reason. He wanted to know more about the people which are pro and against Pegida. He approached us and wanted to talk. Many of us thought he wanted to provocate, because he was black and the criminal refugees were black too. So, it wasn't easy for him. 

I saw him, asked him what he wanted to know, and told him my reasons why I was part of the demonstration and what we have to change. I dind’t know that he was a little bit famous in Cologne, because he is like an entertainer as he presented himself. He stages events featuring VIPs, artists and businessmen called “Connect and celebrate” that people can do networking, for example. He made a video of our conversation and put it on his Youtube -channel. He was absolutely fair and didn’t alter the content of my answers, as is the common practice with other so called journalists. I put a comment under his Facebook post with the video and told him, that he is a fair guy and I invited him to an interview for my blog, to which he subsequently agreed. It was a very long interview. After the interview, we met again in Cologne and explained to each other, what we thought of the situation, the mass migration and Germany in general. Following our meeting, he asked me, if I would make a film with him with our story. I agreed and so we made the first video. He asked me about my Weltanschauung, and I explained it to him. It was a win-win situation. Nana Domena, that’s his name, could show that he was a real connector who can speak with a white nationalist, and I had the possibility to speak freely about my Weltanschauung and that Nationalism has nothing to do with stupid violence. So, we started these project of freedom of speech. Leftists and the system tried to keep our project suppressed, as it doesn't fit with stereotypes the established media spreads about us. The feedback from the viewers was absolutely fantastic! The comments under the video shows the respect for us and our video from different stocks of people: Some foreign people, residing in Germany for a long time, and are against the invasion too, as well as normal people and comrades. I get many mails from people, who saw for the first time a Nationalist, who can explain his viewpoint without all this negative stigma. There were only a few guys from the left, who attacked Nana, that “he gave a Nazi the opportunity to make racial propaganda”. And only a handful of comrades couldn't understand, why I spoke to a black guy. I say it again: I hate no other race. Every race has the right to exist. Of course on their own continent or country. And yes, I am against race mixing and foreign invaders. But we will change nothing, when we fight the invaders. The root of all evil is the democratic/plutocratic system. I told Nana the we have to repatriate millions of so called refugees back to their countries to live in peace. We spoke of the difference of races in medicine and cultural traits, that an arabian guy can’t become a German, like I never could become a Japanese. We spoke about these themes in a respectful way without anger or hate. The special thing is, that a black guy and a white nationalist do that, and there was never a project like this. Ok, in America, David Duke discussed with a black guy via television. But in Europe, this is a novelty and many comrades support this project.

What are your other activities on the net? Tell us about your other video blog called “Der Dritte Blickwinkel".

After my project with Nana Domena, I got many questions about Nationalism, Racism and Identity. So I turned my blog into a vlog, a video blog, and made videos to explain my Weltanschauung. One video is in regard to motivation to keep on the fight, while another is about race-realism; there is also a video about the secret services which supports terrorism, and so on. In the future, I will invite a real film studio and will discuss different subjects with other nationalists. 

Returning to music… tell us few words about the other band you are involved in – Halgadom? How can you describe their style and what are the most notable topics in their lyrics? 

Halgadom is a form of expression for my pagan and philosophical aspect. The lyrics are about germanic mythology and have a philosophical thought. Some albums are Pagan Metal, some are Neofolk. I play the guitar, compose the songs and do the vocals of the Neofolk songs.

Your opinion on the new trend called NS Rap?

Every generation have its own music of protest. Men like us had Rock or Metal, the youth of today prefers Rap or Hip Hop. That’s not really my music but I think, that this could be a way to reach the youth, when the lyrics are in our way.

What was the reason of the very few live concerts of Stahlgewitter in the past years?

Stahlgewitter consists only of Gigi and myself and we live far away from each other. We don't rehearse together like other bands. I record the riffs at home with my computer, then send them to Gigi and he tells me, what riffs are useful. In this way, we create songs. And when you work in this way, it isn't easy to play concerts. The other matter is that I am not much into live concerts. 

What can we expect from Stahgewitter in the near future? Contemplating new gigs or a new album?

When I find time, I create new riffs with my guitar. But free time is rare. So I can’t tell anything with certainty. Sorry.

Few German bands like Exzess, Hailiger Krieg and Lunikoff Verschwörung have already played in Bulgaria. Will you accept an invitation for a gig in my country? 

Thank’s for your invitation! But I don’t play concerts. I create the songs with Gigi and record the albums, but I have no time for concerts. My family, job, sport, my video projects, my online shop and many mails and letters fills my day. For concerts, you have to ask Gigi. He has some session musicians for live gigs. 

Thanks for your answers, Frank. Any final message to the readers of the blog?

I have to thank you for your interesting questions. We Europeans live in an very important period. We decide if Europe will remain a continent of white people, or if our great Europe will fall down into a dark abyss, without a future for the next generations. We have to stand together and we have to build fortress Europe!

Jocke Karlsson Interview

We say hello to Jocke Karlsson, a name which don’t need a special introduction. He’s well known from more than 25 years with his involvement with cult bands such as Pro Patria, Pluton Svea, Pitbullfarm and more recently his new project Code 291.

So, Jocke let me first ask you about the gig you held few months ago in my Fatherland. What are you recollections from the days in Bulgaria? Do you want to come again with your new band?

I was half dead and my liver hated me for weeks after the visit in Bulgaria, which means I had the time of my life over there. Haha.. You guys are doing a great job with the organizing, and your hospitality was top notch. I’ll be back in November again with CODE 291, it’s already booked, so see you then!

That’s great news!!! Going back to the major part of interview. I will try to structure my questions in chronological order… Tell me about your teen years? How did your interest in music have started? How did you get involved in skinhead scene as well?

When I grew up I wasn’t the kind of kid who enjoyed any typical music for children, and my elder brother was a Punk back in the late 70’s. I loved the tunes I heard from his room, and in the early 80’s he became one of the first skinheads in Sweden. He gave me a few mixed tapes of Punk/Oi-bands, so my interest in music came very early. In the middle of the 80’s I bought my first guitar and we started a punk band. Back in that days punx and skins were friends here, and my best friends were skinheads. 

When Skrewdriver released the Blood and honour album 1985 I was totally paralyzed! About that time the punk scene started to be a left wing movement and the skinhead culture matched my mind and thoughts much better. 

One thing led to another, and the year after, I shaved my head.

Your involvement in Pro Patria?

We started the band 1987. I dropped my guitar and bought a drum kit. 

We were active until 1990 and the only real album recording we made was 3 songs for the compilation Nordland. After we broke up one full length album and some compilations are released.

A little known fact is that you have been part of band called “Slapping Suspenders”… few words about it?

Our bass player from Pro Patria started that band as a project beside Pro Patria. 

They recorded an album, and just before they released it their guitar player (also from Pro Patria) left the band. I liked the sound of the old school Psychobilly, so I joined them for the next 5 years.

What are your recollections from the second Skrewdriver gig in Sweden back in 1989? As far as I know Ian Stuart borrowed your guitar for the concert.

Yes. Pro Patria was one of the support bands at the gig. So both Ian and Merv borrowed our instruments. Unfortunately that guitar doesn’t exist today.

In the beginning of the 90’s you were a founding member of Pluton svea, rated as one of the best (if not the best) Swedish WP bands. You have started just as guitarist, not singer, haven’t you?

That’s correct. The first singer was the singer from Pro Patria. But after our first album he left the band and it was impossible to find a new singer. The recording studio was already booked for our second album, so we had some panic. I didn’t want to sing, honestly. That was just an emergency solution. I couldn’t stand hearing my own voice in the beginning, but after a while I felt comfortable with my new role in the band.

Your creativity with this band faced problems with the law in Sweden. Your second album Stöveltramp was taken to court. What was the “legal” reason for this? What were the other actions of ZOG against Pluton svea?

We have a law here which is most comparable to the American charge: hate crime. 

And every song on that album (except one) was found illegal, but the limitation period for an approved prosecution had passed. Which probably saved our former record label’s ass.

It was nothing personal against Pluton Svea, I can say that all the bands and organizers in the Swedish scene had really hard times back in the 90’s. 

What was the reason to stop activity with Pluton svea?

The last years I was the only original member left. I had to borrow musicians from other bands, so my inspiration to continue with Pluton Svea died slowly but surely.

Few words about your cooperation with Saga and her tributes to Skrewdriver? Can you compare it to the tribute to Skrewdriver “Blod & Ära” where songs were sung in Swedish?

Personally I think the Swedish stuff were better and funnier to record. 3 albums with Sagas voice to Ian’s songs is too much!

Last one about Pluton svea… some years ago a “best of” cd was released by Midgard. Which were the “new” songs included?

Över gravar framåt, Nothing but a whore, These boots and Dömda att dö.

Story goes further to your next band. When you first started Pitbullfarm in 2002 did you want to start a PC career with the band?

I’ve never tried to make a musical career ever. I don’t believe in mainstream music or bands.

But I must say that I’m relatively sure that I’ve had the chance to do that a few times. Before we start to play gigs with Pitbullfarm we received some deals and requests that many musicians can only dream of. And also my other band Völund Smed which I left a few years ago. We sent a song (just for fun) to the biggest radio station here. They have a region based radio show with bands from the middle part of Sweden, and a competition where the listeners can vote on their favorite song. And after one week we were the no.1 at their top list.

They found out who played the guitar, so they arranged a live interview with the band on the same radio show the next week. But the interview didn’t go the way like the radio actor wanted. They thought they had a big fucking scoop here and probably much more than that. 

I felt the enthusiasm sparkled from the radio people before the interview began, and they seemed to have plans that the listeners should hear me take an officially distance from my past in this live broadcast. Well… I had other plans. I stood my ground instead of getting my 15 minutes of fame. I told them that I will always stand by my nationalist values and never become a turncoat. Of course all hell broke loose and they kicked us out. Hahaha.

Around those years a picture of you and non-white person appeared in I-net. Who is him, where and why you took this photo?

The non-white guy is a very famous rapper from the Hip Hop scene. His name is Ken Ring. I had not even heard his name before, but the same day I met him, he was all over the Swedish media. My ex fiancée saw him on the news the same morning and she shouted: "Jocke come here, you have to see this". (I just use google to remember all this) He made some really strong statements against immigration and also attacked other artists verbally with anti-semitic words of abuse like:“He’s a fucking Jewish scum” etc. 

The same night I went to a party with my old MC club to another club, and Ken Ring had a gig in that city too.. In the middle of the night He showed up at the clubhouse for an after-party. It's no more complicated than I felt that I have to take a picture of him and send it to my fiancée. I thought it was a funny thing, and I also posted the pic at facebook etc. Of course there’s always people without a sense of humor who can’t see the funny in it. So I’ve heard there was people who really believe that me and Ken Ring were close friends and things like that, which usually happens when genius people speculates. I still think it’s fucking hilarious :)

In 2005, there was a now very famous statement on German psychobilly forum under your (or somebody imitating you) account, that you stopped with hate an fascism, etc.. Was it you making this statement? Some people heard from you that you were in prison by the time and technically cannot do it.

I think it’s even older than from 2005. And yes, I was in prison then. First time I saw/heard that bullshit was not so many years ago. But in that story the story was “It’s from an interview”. There were several factual errors revealed themselves in this so called statement. The not so unknown Kuggnäs-festival where 9 of 10 bands play every summer are nationalists was an “antifa-festival” etc.

When I buried Pluton Svea and left the NSF (National socialist front) I became a “racetraitor” to some cunts. I actually didn’t give a shit about that then. And the very few who had the balls to say something in my face was smashed down, of course. I must say I was sick and tired of big parts of the Swedish nationalist movement in the early 2000’s. Backstabbers, comrade-thieves, informers and other trash people were involved. People I wouldn’t even piss on if they were on fire! I’ve done a shit load of crazy things and always walked my own way in my life, no matter where I ended up, but I would never turned my back on my beliefs. 

We can divide the history of Pitbullfarm into two periods - aggressive non-politics Psychobilly and RAC-a-billy. What was the reason for this transformation? You failed with your chances in Psychobilly scene, or were just matter of things happening around you and your life?

In the first Line-up of Pitbullfarm (2002) the other members were totally different than me in many ways. None of them were a leftie or an asshole, but we had different opinions in almost everything, except how we should create our sound. So it became natural to make non-political lyrics. At that time I had played political music for more than 15 years so this was a kind of a challenge for me. I didn’t want to play classic Psychobilly, cause the scene is very left wing infected, so we sneaked in a lot of punk and other non-typical Psychobilly stuff into the songs and created a very own sound. After 4 years I killed the band for some personal reasons. But 6 years after (2012) I regrouped the band with new members. RAF (Rock against fascism) judged us the same second as we were reborn, so now we were officially a fascist-band. Hahaha. Just kidding, but it’s not far away from the truth. We weren’t or didn’t even want to be a part of the Psychobilly scene.

We said no to all gigs (except for one in Russia) with a Psychobilly organizer.

What was the REAL reason to end up with PitbullFarm? I’m asking because it’s not the first band that is splitting up after they played in Bulgaria, hahaha?

I think it would be funny if our trip to Bulgaria would be the true reason, So let's decide that this is the official story. It’s your fault, you bastards!! Hahaha!

Why you started immediately new band under the name of CODE 291? Many people associated it with Pluton svea... is it a resurrection of the band under a new name?

I had those plans for a long time, and in December last year I asked the other guys if they were interested of starting a band. And here we are now.

The new band is not more of a resurrection of Pluton Svea than of Pitbullfarm.

CODE 291 is something totally new and shouldn’t be compared to any of my other bands from my history. But of course you will hear that this is me.

Why you decided to entitle the album "Tolerant today - dead tomorrow"?

I saw that phrase at internet, and it was both better and matched the rest of the whole concept Code 291.

What about the lyrics? It seems you have returned to good old politically incorrect style?

A different thing compare to my earlier bands there’s no fiction in the new lyrics. Most of the lyrics are based on the concept of Code 291. There are some historical lyrics too. I sing about the bitter truth that our system is tried to cover up. And of course, they are automatically classified as politically incorrect.

Which was the song you recorded first? Can you rate your best song, both from lyrical and music point of view? Why did you made a track about Simo Hyaha and do you think this can upset your Russian listeners?

We recorded six songs (not one song) to a promo CD a couple of month before the recordings of Tolerant today – Dead tomorrow. It was just for fun. It’s impossible to pick just one best song. When I listen to the final result of the album, all the 13 songs are 13 important components which makes the album a full-scale unit that I’m 100% happy with and proud of.

We should all pay our respect to Mr. Häyhä. Not just the Finnish people. As the Swedish man I am, I feel so much loyalty with the Finns, because of our countries common history. They were our brothers more than 800 years ago, they are our brothers today! Simo was a true war hero and without his efforts and sacrifice I’m pretty sure that both Finland and Sweden would have been a part of the former Soviet Union. 

I don’t think our Russian listeners will be upset about the facts that I salute our kinsmen who stood up and beat the enemy who invaded their country. I don’t point at Russia today and accusing the Russian people for all the shit Stalin and his red army did to Finland, Germany and Sweden during WW2 and the winter war. Yes, I wrote Sweden too. It’s not very famous, but even though we were neutral in the war, we were bombed by Soviet air force a couple of times in the 40’s. 

Recording sessions with CODE 291? In the same time you've done the “farewell” Pitbulfarm album. You literally recorded both of them very fast. Tell me about the days in the studio?

It was the toughest studio work I’ve ever done. 2 albums in 2 weeks, but I worked almost 24 hours/day. It took me about one week to be normal again after that.

I don’t know what to say about the studio days. We worked like hell, and we reached a result we´re all satisfied with.

Tired already?!? Hahaha… ok just a few quick ones for an end… Some unknown bands make a “Tribute to Jocke” mini CD, what were your feelings about it?

Yes, I’m tired as fuck. Too many questions here! This is the last interview I’ll ever do! 

Hahaha :D Some of the big musicians usually get a tribute album after their death. 

I’m not a big musician, and I’m still alive. So I would say that I’m deeply honoured!

You have played hundreds of gigs, can you tell us some hilarious moments while touring around Europe?

I will keep them all for my book.

Do you plan any new face tattoos?

No. Not at this moment. But that doesn’t mean I won’t do another facial tattoo. If I find something that I like, then I’ll decide whether to do it or not. The time will tell.

And finally who is producing CODE 291 new album and where fans can order it from? 

Midgård Records. The obvious choice of record company for me :)